tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7794851864988490752.post4900561748302934081..comments2023-08-16T08:39:11.540-04:00Comments on Sprizouse: Amoral MBA StudentsSprizousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06764449113845175440noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7794851864988490752.post-34586124644093347622013-04-09T05:54:10.708-04:002013-04-09T05:54:10.708-04:00NICE BLOG!!! Investment in a Business Management p...NICE BLOG!!! Investment in a Business Management program is much more beneficial compared to investment in other academic programs. Perhaps, more so in the current situation of recession. Thanks for sharing a nice information.<br /><a href="http://www.way2college.com/mbacolleges.php" rel="nofollow">Top MBA Colleges in India</a> <br /><a href="http://www.way2college.com/mbacolleges.php" rel="nofollow">Best MBA Colleges in India</a><br /><br /><br />way2 collegehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15002354364018973597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7794851864988490752.post-64613558349581675692011-04-03T14:33:46.770-04:002011-04-03T14:33:46.770-04:00I am attending a top EMBA program in the US. The ...I am attending a top EMBA program in the US. The narcissists have made the program a virtual hell. <br /><br />The promises of a wonderful network and friends are empty. A person would be lucky to find a handful of decent people in the group.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7794851864988490752.post-21436235816185627872011-01-22T01:26:02.289-05:002011-01-22T01:26:02.289-05:00I agree with what you have to say! thanks for the ...I agree with what you have to say! thanks for the MBA stats!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7794851864988490752.post-77791460420936043292008-12-03T05:13:00.000-05:002008-12-03T05:13:00.000-05:00Yes, the debate has been going on for a long time ...Yes, the debate has been going on for a long time and Jesse Livermore was complaining about 'boy bankers' eighty years ago. Despite saying that MBA's might as well be in prison I didn't mean to sound vitriolic, I was just referring to their use to society. Five years ago I asked a professor at one of the best MBA schools what he would do with the new intake of MBA's. He said that he would 'immediately get rid of 80 per cent of them and work with the rest'. So do the math - if only 20 % are worth anything at the better schools, imagine what the rest of smart asses from elsewhere are going to achieve for everyone - ie take a look around. Mind you, if you do that math, you are automatically reducing yourself to the kind of facile calculation that these unimaginative and unrounded MBA's live by.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7794851864988490752.post-77906426828308884612008-12-02T15:49:00.000-05:002008-12-02T15:49:00.000-05:00I'm a 1994 MBA from a school that thinks of itself...I'm a 1994 MBA from a school that thinks of itself as Top 3. I can assure you that this debate has been going on since the dawn of time. <BR/><BR/>For the record, I didn't associate with cheaters. However, there were so many people who would move golf and pool ballls just a little that it came to be considered part of the rules.<BR/><BR/>I disagree that most MBA students come from wealthy families. Maybe a little overrepresented, but I think what you're seeing is that people in banks and consulting firms are well-paid and these are jobs people often have before MBA school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7794851864988490752.post-3029284079819512322008-12-02T12:04:00.000-05:002008-12-02T12:04:00.000-05:00@ Nick and Anon: The current level of vitriol dire...@ Nick and Anon: The current level of vitriol directed at everyone in b-school (including professors) is somewhat misplaced, I think. There are some two million MBA's in the world and the vast majority of them aren't lying, cheating, thieving criminals. <BR/><BR/>I agree (obviously) on some levels about the amorality of the students, but nearly all the professors try to dispense lessons and teach with a heavy-handed, moralistic approach. The types of books we read and the cases we study, when not conveying a direct strategic lesson, often convey the benefits of being a gentle, magnanimous manager; the benefits of listening to, and encouraging employees and, finally, the benefits of corporate social responsibility to your company's community. <BR/><BR/>I think you're both a little right that the morals aren't at the level we'd hope in MBA students. However, I don't believe they're nearly so bad as the two of you would have it. Without some sort of control group and more stringent research, none of can really say whether the lure of money is more, or less, corrupting on MBA's than it is on the rest of the world.Sprizousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06764449113845175440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7794851864988490752.post-88228369380514474182008-12-02T03:38:00.000-05:002008-12-02T03:38:00.000-05:00"All this is beside the point, however. MBA Studen..."All this is beside the point, however. MBA Students (and MS - Finance students) are supposed to be smarter and (I suppose) less immoral than rest of the world. "<BR/><BR/>This statement is your problem. Somehow the word smart attaches to these people. 'Smart', meaning the ability to wear a tie, has come to mean the height of all human achievement. There is no connection with morals, and in realty, no connection even with brains or character or courage These people turn up in and fit in. Thats it. They belong in the system and they might as well be in prison for all their contribution to anyone but themselvesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7794851864988490752.post-60502354124867022962008-12-01T19:31:00.000-05:002008-12-01T19:31:00.000-05:00"All this is beside the point, however. MBA Studen...<I>"All this is beside the point, however. MBA Students (and MS - Finance students) are supposed to be smarter and (I suppose) less immoral than rest of the world. "</I><BR/><BR/>Why? <B>You're recruiting people whose sole desire is to line their own pockets. </B>Why do you think education implies superior morality?<BR/><BR/>What planet are you on? The more you coddle children with private schools and fancy cars, the more likely they are to be deluded into a self-aggrandized view of themselves. Most wealthy children (you'll find most top MBA students have a silver spoon) are schooled in <B>NARCISSISM</B>. <BR/><BR/>I'm near a top B-school and I listen to these people cackle hysterically in cafes, gloating about themselves in extended j-erk off sessions.<BR/><BR/><BR/>They seek the emblems of success and status by any means they can!<BR/>That's how their raised so that's how they see the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7794851864988490752.post-11096431846712039322008-11-24T11:20:00.000-05:002008-11-24T11:20:00.000-05:00Good Morning! How's your coffee today? I actually ...Good Morning! How's your coffee today? I actually have some other interesting data on this matter. I have no idea how it works in other countries, but in Costa Rica an MBA stopped being a sing of scholar tendencies and rather an "I have money" sign. Mostly people who is already working goes for these and they pretty much pay for the title and get it. No sweat. In several cases there are no test, no final exams, and people do some whatever little project, which is done by their secretaries and assistants, and then get the three letters and the diploma to frame and hang on the wall.<BR/><BR/>The tendency is so widespread, and there are so many cases of people who never really finished College or University, but have an MBA, that it has lost value completely. It's good to get a raise if you work for the Government, but outside it, you better hide it or people will think you are "one of those who don't work for the things, but buy them already made." So cheating? Yes, it becomes second nature.<BR/><BR/>PS. No, I'm not an MBA, nor an MSc. I would kind of be ashamed of being so.Storm Bunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01003995788897827115noreply@blogger.com